this is outrageous....how are the democrats supposed to win without dead people, illegal aliens, mobile voters, multiple votes, ballot stuffing, coercion , voter intimidation, unregistered voters and such...it ain't right

Funny enough, Danny Roturra, there isn't a single reported instance of vote fraud in the state. If you want to bring up coercion and voter intimidation, this "law" has all that in spades. It is a none too veiled attempt to disenfranchise voters in Pennsylvania being perpetrated by the GOP. Shame on them.

Maybe I'm missing the point, but I don't get how it's a bad thing to require ID? Especially for voting... how is that intimidating? I guess if it's against your beliefs to have your picture taken >.< Seriously, though, reported fraud or not, I think it's a good thing to keep people accountable. Especially with something as dirty as politics ^.<

Went to the UD library with my daughter who forgot her Library "ID" card. They wouldn't allow her to check out a book because she did not have a picture ID to prove who she was. Even though they knew who she was, and I was with her to also verify her identity they would not allow her the book. I had to pay $3.00 for a new library card which she didn't need an picture ID for. Where is the ACLU???

Went to the doctors and had to give them my drivers license or else no service. Is the ACLU going to file suit against OBAMACARE when a picture ID is required?

Oh about Voter Fraud. Gov't sponsored multimillion $ ACORN was de-funded because of voter fraud. Let us not forget the Black Panthers voter intimidation filmed in Phila. and DOJ Holder refusal to prosecute.

I'm just saying

Fundamentally, I don't have a problem with having to show an ID when I vote. I already do it. The problem with this law is twofold: first, that it is being enacted such a short time prior to the election; and second, that the Republican leadership in PA has stated that the purpose of the law is to ensure a Republican victory in PA in November (citation: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0612/77811.html).

Put a law like this in place that gives a considerable roll-out period, say two years, and it can work...not that any real fraud has taken place that needs to be prevented in the first place, but I'm trying to play along here. It is the second point that should give EVERY Pennsylvanian, Democrat or Republican, pause -- it is a clear and unadulterated case of one political party attempting to control the outcome of an election by denying persons eligible to vote the right to do so.

And doesn't that sound like voter fraud? It sure does to me. Be careful whose rights you are so willing to throw under the bus today, because tomorrow, those rights might be yours.

The Commonwealth has submitted that voter fraud has never been investigated or prosecuted.

Never is a very long time.

The Commonwealth has submitted that there is no reason to believe voter fraud has ever occurred in Pennsylvania. Further the Commonwealth has submitted that there is no reason to believe that voter fraud would take place if there was no voter I.D. law.

Submitted? Yes, a brief to the Supreme Court, a stupulation to be exact, to the Court so those points would not be argued before the court.

ACORN??? Evidently fictional accounts according to the Commonwealth.

Voter fraud is irrational because it is already illegal, with serious penalties.

So as individuals continue to make examples of borrowing library books, buying cigarettes, buying alcohol, watching porn movies, seeing a new doctor or getting a test at a hospital, the difference is that none of those things are constitutionally guaranteed rights.

You don't have to show ID in order to express yourself publicly because there if freedom of speech.

So folks, come up with relevant examples or stop trotting out the party line.

And all of the "sources" are Republican operatives. Yawn. Oh, and WND has a known, very strong, right-wing bias.

You will have to read the stipulation filed by the Commonwealth yesterday to the Supreme Court. yesterday. Yes yesterday.

So you can list whatever articles you choose. The Commonwealth has conceded and stipulated that voter fraud has never been investigated nor prosecuted. Never.

Read it. It was just yesterday.

The Republicans are resorting to these tactics because they are loosing voters. And let me say I am not a Democrat. Voter Fraud happens alright. It's done by machine now. Right here in Montgomery County we vote on Sequoia Advantage voting machines. These machines have been dis-allowed in most states including New Jersey because they are not secure. Check out the film "Uncounted - The new math of American Elections".

Let me see. Pa never any voter fraud?
WOW, as corrupt as Philly is. I'm sure glad that Philly politicians didn't turn to the "Vote early and often" philosophy like the Chicago political machine.

Voter fraud has occurred throughout voting history. That’s why billionaire WH puppet master George Sorros bought the Spanish Co. that has the contract to count the mail-in presidential ballots. Who said of the purchase, “It doesn’t matter who votes. It matters who counts them”.

I'm glad that our state is being proactive. Especially since what has happened in the last two elections in other states (NV). I guess they might have decided to ensure that only Americans/Pennsylvanians were eligible to vote. Maybe they just wanted to ensure voting integrity because this administration's "Open Boarders Policy" has given the US/Pennsylvania a massive influx of illegal aliens (unknown voters) who are being used like pawns for political gains (Executive Order). Maybe they just want to make sure that PA doesn't undergo a fraud investigation because all eyes are going to be on PA as a swing state in the election. Maybe they want a vote in America to mean more than a worthless vote in Russia, Iran, or 90% of the "Democratic" voting world.

As far as a two year voter program. What? This is America we can get anything done especially a fair and adequate voter plan. With >14% true unemployment we have the labor power. Don’t forget after the destruction of Dec 7 America had an operational fleet defending the Pacific against it's enemies within weeks.

Oh and in response to "You don't have to show ID in order to express yourself publicly because there if freedom of speech". Not so, just released “NSA whistleblowers: Government spying on every single American”. http://rt.com/usa/news/nsa-whistleblower-binney-drake-978/

Borrowing library books ... trotting out the party lines. I spoke the truth not party lines. The truth hurts I’m not affiliated with any party only seeking the truth because the truth we keep you FREE.

PS: pruckels…”The elderly, African-Americans, and urban and rural poor are among the groups that will be the most affected”. Find out the truth. Please go see the movie, this Friday only, AMC Warrington “Runaway Slave”. Further info http://www.runawayslavemovie.com/. You won’t be sorry.
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99.99% of voter fraud that is carried out is done on a level that would not be stopped by the voter ID law (in other words it isn't people knowingly voting in a fraudulent manner, it is people who are running elections committing the fraud) and most of the remainder of that is done by accident (people accidentally sending in absentee ballots for others). This is why cases across the US and especially in PA are next to non-existent for voter impersonation (people knowingly fraudulently voting). The voter ID law is simply a red herring to pretend that something is being done about voter fraud when really they are stopping people from voting which is especially a shame when Americans should be fighting the absurd political apathy that has been running rampant in our country for decades.

Voter fraud in Pennsylvania? Never investigated nor prosecuted according to the attorney general's office.

No incidents. Fictional accounts including those in this blog.

Voter fraud? It's always been illegal with very serious penalties. That's why it doesn't occur.

I am not sure whether any of you are aware of the list that was put out by the state of individuals of both parties whose name on the photo i.d. (driver's license) does not match the name on the voter's registration. There are over 100 in my Ward and District. For instance, the First name on your birth cerificate and driver's license is spelled Shanna but you have spelled it Shana your whole life and that is how it is on your voter registration where you have voted for twenty years or more. Should everyone mail in a change of name form to Montgomery County? Check yours to be sure that they are the same. The rules now say that you will have to fill out a provisional ballot in November. This is another attempt to limit the number of people able to vote in November.

Having received a letter from Secretary of State Carol Aichele yesterday (one that I'm sure that every other registered voter in the state received), it had me wondering what the dollar cost of this law was...

Voter fraud is rampant in Philadelphia. They actually had a polling location that had more votes than registered voters for that location.

What I don't understand is why can't you use your voter registration card you get in the mail when you register to vote? Isn't that why the card was mailed to you so that you would show that at you polling place?
I agree with what someone stated earlier that if you are going to do the photo id, shouldn't it have been phased in over a two year period? I think then people may not have been so up in arms over it because then they would have had enough time to get the proper documents to get their photo id.

The voting machines we have in Montgomery County cannot be checked to see if it counted the votes right. Once you push the button on the machine to count the vote, it cannot recount them. It will only give you the number it came up with the first time. There is no way to tell if the machine really counted the vote the same way people voted on it.

Christine I agree with you we need a Voter Verified Paper Ballot.

How about a voter IQ test before they are allowed to vote ? Look what the blind liberal democrats have done to our beautiful suburbs. How many terms are the idiots going to give career Philadelphia politician Allyson Schwartz ? Does she even know where Mongomery County is ?

I have no clue what problem you have with Allyson Schwartz. She was State Senator in Montgomery County before she ran for the House. The lines were drawn to include parts of Philadelphia (mostly in the northeast). She lives in Abington, which you may note is in Montgomery County. I think she knows where Montgomery County is.

Not true Betty....Allyson Schwartz was a State Senator in Philadelphia. She moved into Jenkintown when she decided to run for Congress. Among other things, she was notably absent in 2010 when other members of Congress were responding to constituent concerns about Obamacare. Also, famously, she came late and left early at a candidate's night in Meadowbrook.

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They're all career politicians both Republican and Democrat. In Pa. less than 3% of our representatives ever leave office on their own. The only thing they care about is getting elected the next time around. I agree Allyson Schwartz is worthless but so is Stewart Greenleaf and all of our other so called representatives. Once they're in you can't get rid of them. How about some term limits!

Dopes here took a wrong turn on the Voter ID issue.

The law as passed is voter supression plain and simple. The imbecilic comments by "Hatboro Mike" Shortall and others demonstrates the lack of intelligence and thought on this issue.

Were it not for attempts by the GOP to steal the election, this would not be a topic. Can't win an election on merit??? Make up nonsense about "voter fraud".

Problem for you is that according to the PA state attorney general's off, "voter fraud has never been investigated nor prosecuted in Pennsylvania."

Try to stay on topic. Lacking facts, I know that's tough for you.

If you want proof of voter fraud, all you have to do is look at the success of career Philadelphia politician Allyson Schwartz. There cant be that many stupid citizens in the 13th congressional district. Who is she ? And when will she make her first ever appearance in Montgomery County ?

Wow. It's very telling to see which commentors resort to mudslinging, namecalling, and being unable to back up their assertions with citations -- and I won't even go into spelling and grammar. Also, Brian, Holder wasn't AG in 2008.

I am amazed at all the ruckus about voter ID. I have to give ID to get spray paint at Pep Boys. Show ID for cigarettes. If you don't have ID, how are people getting assistance? If all these people who are complaining, would just get together and HELP those who need ID for what ever reason, It would solve the problem.

Put into proper perspective, the number of people potentially disenfranchized in Philadelphia alone outnumbers the number of actual, proven voter fraud casese by several orders of magnitude. Again, I don't disagree with the need to show ID in order to vote. I do disagree with the spirit behind the law (to unabashedly "deliver" PA to Romney) as well as the timing of it, and I would feel the same way if the Democrats were enacting some legislation that would disenfranchise Republicans. Democracy's cornerstone is free and fair elections, without external influence.

And Pennsylvania is not alone: http://www.salon.com/2012/07/27/fla_republican_we_suppressed_black_votes/

Here's an article for you guy all concerned about voter fraud. this is who is committing it. http://www.motherjones.com/mojo/2011/06/did-mitt-romney-commit-voter-fraud

How about if we start talking about the invisible, incompetent, millionaire, career politician, wicked warlock of the right, Stewart Greenleaf ?